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and what do YOU think?

26 Nov

Happy Thanksgiving, world!

Are you a resident of the United States reading this on Turkey Day?

Shame on you!  Get off the internet and go call somebody you like.  Your mother, maybe, or that friend that you still owe a coffee to.  Pet your cat.  Visit your neighbor.  Thanksgiving may not have the most romantic roots, but it is a good excuse to appreciate what is around you.

Okay, that being said, you guys, I had a super fun time writing about ladies in cartoons, but I had even more fun listening to what you had to say about it.  Jake brought the excellent example of Olive Oyl.  CK brought up Animaniacs’ Dot.  Michael brought up Avatar’s Suki.  Laura mentioned the ever-famous April O’Neil, which warmed the cockles of my nerdy, nerdy heart.

So, Internet, what do you have to say about this?  Did I leave out any great cartoon characters, or any awful ones?  I was focusing on animated ladies on television, but maybe there is some stellar example in film.  Maybe there is some dude that I shafted (huh huh huh) when making these lists, and you want to be sure he gets represented.

So tell me!  Who do you like?  Who do you hate?

And why, friends, why?

I am pretty pumped up to see what you say.

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7 responses to “and what do YOU think?

  1. rubybastille

    November 29, 2009 at 10:27 pm

    Actually I was thinking about the difference between Kitty Pryde in the comics and Kitty Pryde in the cartoons. Comics!Kitty (once she escaped the 80s and stopped wearing roller skates) became an extremely competent and self-sufficient gal, with a freakin’ dragon for a pet. She even dated an older guy, whoo scandalous. She’s a total badass and the main character of “Astonishing X-Men,” and she has all this romantic drama with Colossus in a pretty realistic although very Joss Whedon kind of way.

    But in the TV shows, she almost always gets reduced to a whiny valley girl-ish teenager. I say “almost” because I’ve never seen her in the original 90s show and I don’t know what she was like there.

    Well, there wasn’t much point to that, other than to take an excuse to talk about X-Men. I can also say that I was impressed with how “Wolverine and the X-Men” utilized Emma Frost as a character and that Storm in “Evolution” is also awesome.

     
    • Jessica

      November 29, 2009 at 10:48 pm

      You are always my best source for X-Men lore!

      I think things often get dumbed down considerably for television, especially for the first several episodes. Comics tend to begin with a simple concept enacted by complex characters, whereas television more often seems to enact a complex concept with simple characters. As they progress, good comics and television will add complexity where it is lacking.

      I think that television probably needed Kitty to fill a niche, that of Confused Young Girl, being that X-Men doesn’t really feature a lot of those, and they want Confused Young Girls to have somebody to identify with. Problem being, they never really gave her MORE than that.

      PS: Much as I hate Emma Frost, I think that she is a pretty great character. I seriously have a thing for villains that are right there on that line between good and evil.

       
  2. James

    November 29, 2009 at 10:59 pm

    If we were including Japanese animation in this discussion, I could probably go on for days about any given character from any given series with which I am familiar. An interesting example might be Sakura, the main female character from the Naruto series, which is enormously popular in both the States and Japan. Most of the time she would fall towards the “awful” side of the scale. At first she is entirely defined by her obsession with one of the main male characters, Sasuke, and her hatred for the other, Naruto. The writer (and the more mature characters) are aware of this, and it’s clearly regarded as a deep flaw, but even with all the ways in which her character has grown in strength and competence over the past ten years (!), she’s never been able to shake that basic motivation. With that said, she does have a couple fairly noteworthy moments in the original series, and with the advent of the “Shippuden” continuation, she has become legitimately bad-ass. The first time she showed off her new abilities, I jumped to my feet and hopped around in astonished excitement.

    Additionally, all of the characters from “Totally Spies” were complete crap. I’m ashamed I even remember that show.

     
    • Jessica

      November 30, 2009 at 10:23 am

      Augh, Totally Spies and that WINX Club show…both hurt me in the deepest way.

      I think anime in general is a pretty fantastic example of Awful Women. If they aren’t meek little shadows, they are self-righteous naggers or ‘tough-girls’, both of which are just waiting for some man to turn her into the meek little shadow she has wanted to be all along. Aww!

      Pfeh.

       
  3. Lauren From Texas

    November 30, 2009 at 1:13 pm

    WHAT DID THEY DO TO DORA!!!???!!! How dare they. What has this world come to?

     
  4. ck

    January 6, 2010 at 11:00 pm

    Look at the types of sentences you used!

    *Happy Thanksgiving, world!
    Exclamatory!

    *Are you a resident of the United States reading this on Turkey Day?
    Interrogative!

    *Shame on you!
    Exclamatory!

    *Get off the internet and go call somebody you like.
    Imperative!

    *Your mother, maybe, or that friend that you still owe a coffee to.
    Fragment!

    *Pet your cat.
    Imperative!

    *Visit your neighbor.
    Imperative!

    *Thanksgiving may not have the most romantic roots, but it is a good excuse to appreciate what is around you.
    Declarative!

    Whoopee!
    -Junior High Teacher

     
    • Jessica

      January 7, 2010 at 3:56 pm

      Haha, this is why you are fantastic. As a creative writing major, I long ago ceased thinking about what my sentences WERE, and whether they were correct. I am mostly concerned with whether they sound nice.

      I use a lot of imperatives, don’t I? XD

       

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